Episodes

Jan 12, 2020
Jan 12, 2020
53 min
Today we sit down with David Hayward (aka the Naked Pastor) to talk about his cartoons that revolve around toxic aspects of the church and Christianity that often leave a wake of pain in its path. I'm excited about this one, go check it out, and get some of his books (links below).
SHOW NOTES:
Patreon
What If Project Community
Naked Pastor
Books
SPECIAL MUSIC: Yung Citizen

Jan 5, 2020
Jan 5, 2020
48 min
In this week's episode we sit down with my friend Karl Forehand to talk about his book "Apparent Faith." Get the book, find him on Social Media, and show him some love.
SHOW NOTES:
Patreon
What If Project Community
Apparent Faith
The Desert Sanctuary
Special Music: YUNG CITIZEN

Dec 29, 2019
Dec 29, 2019
43 min
In this week's episode we wrap up 2019 by talking to Dr. Philip Jenkins about his book "The Lost History of Christianity". Dr. Jenkins is a professor at Baylor University and the author of a number of different books. If you want to know more about the history of the early church and how the church came to be, this is a great place to begin. Enjoy!
Patreon
What If Project Community
Lost History of Christianity
The Missionary's Curse
Special Music - Denver Crites Band

Dec 22, 2019
Dec 22, 2019
53 min
In this week's episode we talk to Alexander John Shaia about the origins of Christmas. We talk Celtic Christianity, Winter Solstice, Christmas Trees, Darkness, Boxing Day, and MORE. Enjoy, and MERRY CHRISTMAS.
SHOW NOTES:
Patreon
What If Project Community
Quadratos
Heart And Mind by Alexander
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Special Music:
"Take Pride" by Will Retherford
Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2BLunn3
Pitch:
Recorded in NYC with producers David Gungor and John Arndt of progressive indie band, The Brilliance, Will Retherford releases “Take Pride” as a LGBTQ+ anthem proclaiming affirmation, freedom, and acceptance. Other contributors include: James McAlister of Sufjan Stevens, Jarod Evans of Blackwatch Studios, and Huntley Miller, Mastering Engineer for Bon Iver, Zedd, and more.
Further Info:
As a straight white male, Will Retherford was compelled to write an advocate song for his queer friends and the larger LGBTQ+ community. He wrote this song on the same day as the wedding of his dear friends Sam & Haley Hedrick, in which one is transgender. As a long-time advocate for the queer community, Will has been frustrated at the great rejection of these people from society, church, and family. Will hopes this song brings healing to many and convicts the right people who are infected by homophobia. Although this song is for queer people, it belongs to all people who have been rejected, shut out, and told to change. “Take pride. Take heart.”
Artist Quote:
“Some of my queer friends have been the most important people in my life. This is a song to tell them to never change who they are and that they are very much loved.”
Artist Bio:
Artist and producer Will Retherford is known for writing about social constructs and post-spiritual ideas crafted with the sounds of orchestral dream pop and mild flavors of folk and indie rock. Inspired by his Anglican faith and participation in activism, Will seeks to unite people through the power of music and ideas in the everyday discovery of purpose and belonging.

Dec 15, 2019
Dec 15, 2019
43 min
It's part 2 of our series we're doing for Christmas called "Keep Christ in ChristIAN" and this week get ready to have your mind blown and your faith stre-e--e---e----e-----e-----etched as we talk about the birth of Jesus as told by Matthew and explore some possible ways that Matthew might have embellished the story and added a bunch of details that likely never happened.
Eh?
Go listen!
SHOW NOTES:
Patreon
What If Project Community
What If Project STORE
The Crossan Book I Reference
Alexander John Shaia's Book

Dec 8, 2019
Dec 8, 2019
33 min
It's week 1 of our new series called "Keep Christ in Christian" and this week we're taking a look at a story in Luke's Gospel where Jesus interacts with a man named Zacchaeus and we're challenging ourselves to live like Christ not just during the Christmas season, but all year long.
SHOW NOTES:
What If Project
Patreon
What If Project Store
What If Project Community

Dec 1, 2019
Dec 1, 2019
1hr 1 min
It's the FINAL INSTALLMENT of our series, "Setting the Bible Free" and this week we sit down with theologian and scholar, Matthew Korpman, to talk about his new book (releasing DECEMBER 13, 2019), "Saying No To God: A Radical Approach To Reading The Bible Faithfully". In the episode Matthew talks to us about what deconstruction has looked like for him and explains to us how and why the Bible urges us to not only argue with God, but to say NO to God.
SHOW NOTES:
What If Project
Patreon
What If Project SWAG
What If Project Community
Saying No To God
"Although bumper stickers abound that propose otherwise, the Bible itself reveals that just because “God says it,” does not, in fact, mean “that settles it.” On the contrary, a close reading of Scripture reveals that God does not want us to blindly obey him, but rather, invites us to “lock hands” with him and fight. The purpose of this book is to show another way to understand the Bible, one in which readers are not asked to accept what God says, but on the contrary: to say no to it, not because they merely want to, but because the God of the Bible actually requires it."
Special Music: YUNG CITIZEN

Nov 24, 2019
Nov 24, 2019
49 min
It's week TEN of our series "Setting the Bible Free" and today we're sitting down with my friend Bushi. Bushi was at one time an evangelical Christian pastor and now he's a Buddhist Zen Monk. In today's episode he talks to us about his own journey of deconstruction, what Buddhism has taught him about the Bible, and the importance of living the way of Christ in our everyday lives.
SHOW NOTES:
What If Project
Patreon
What If Project STORE
Bushi
Special Music: BEFORE JANE

Nov 17, 2019
Nov 17, 2019
1hr 7 min
In today's episode we talk to Doug Pagitt about his new book "Outdoing Jesus". He talks to us about what it looks like to out do the Son of God and what John 3:16 really means.
Show Notes:
Doug Pagitt
Vote Common Good
Outdoing Jesus
Patreon
What If Project Swag
What If Project Community
SPECIAL MUSIC: Will Retherford
Further Info:
As a straight white male, Will Retherford was compelled to write an advocate song for his queer friends and the larger LGBTQ+ community. He wrote this song on the same day as the wedding of his dear friends Sam & Haley Hedrick, in which one is transgender. As a long-time advocate for the queer community, Will has been frustrated at the great rejection of these people from society, church, and family. Will hopes this song brings healing to many and convicts the right people who are infected by homophobia. Although this song is for queer people, it belongs to all people who have been rejected, shut out, and told to change. “Take pride. Take heart.”
Artist Quote:
“Some of my queer friends have been the most important people in my life. This is a song to tell them to never change who they are and that they are very much loved.”
Artist Bio:
Artist and producer Will Retherford is known for writing about social constructs and post-spiritual ideas crafted with the sounds of orchestral dream pop and mild flavors of folk and indie rock. Inspired by his Anglican faith and participation in activism, Will seeks to unite people through the power of music and ideas in the everyday discovery of purpose and belonging.

Nov 10, 2019
Nov 10, 2019
46 min
It’s part 8 of our series, “Setting the Bible Free” and today we’re sitting down with Austen Hartke to talk about his book “Transforming”. Austen is a transgender Christian theologian who brings unique perspective to reading the Bible. We also talk about how churches can be more welcoming to transgender people and Austen shares a special word of encouragement to our transgender listeners.
Show Notes:
Patreon
What If Project Community
Transforming
Austen Hartke
Special Music: Denver Crites Band

Nov 3, 2019
Nov 3, 2019
55 min
In this week's episode we talk to Dr. James Danaher about the Sermon the Mount and how it doesn't really line up very well with Evangelical Theology. This one is a game changer!
SHOW NOTES:
Patreon
What If Project Community
What If Project SWAG
Dr. James Danaher BOOKS
Special Music: Yung Citizen

Oct 27, 2019
Oct 27, 2019
1hr 1 min
It’s part 6 of our series “Setting the Bible Free” and today we’re talking to my Old Testament professor from seminary about all things Old Testament (and some New Testament too). Did you know that the passage in Isaiah where the prophet talks about a virgin giving birth isn’t about Jesus or Mary or Christmas? And did you know that a lot of recent archeological discoveries show that many of the events described in the Old Testament didn’t happen the way the Bible says they did?
Get ready to have your mind blown and your faith expanded.
SHOW NOTES:
Jesus’ Bible by Dr. Chris Dost
What If Project Community
Patreon
Before Jane

Oct 20, 2019
Oct 20, 2019
58 min
It's part FIVE of our series, "Setting the Bible Free" and today we sit down with Keith Giles to talk about his book Jesus Unbound. He talks to us about how the Bible became the Bible, why the Bible isn't the Word of God, and what it really means to be a heretic.
Show Notes:
Patreon
What If Project SWAG
Jesus Unbound by Keith Giles
BK2SQ1
What If Project Blog
What If Project Community
What If Project Facebook Page
Denver Crites Band

Oct 13, 2019
Oct 13, 2019
52 min
It's part 4 of our series "Setting the Bible Free" and today we get to sit down with Thomas Oord. Thomas is a scholar, theologian, and author who was on the podcast earlier this year to talk about his more recent book, "God Can't". In today's episode he shares some thoughts about the Bible and takes some questions from our listeners as well.
SHOW NOTES:
Revelation (the document Thomas mentioned in the episode)
Patreon
What If Project SWAG
What If Project Community
God Can't
Thomas Oord
Special Music - Yung Citizen

Oct 6, 2019
Oct 6, 2019
49 min
This is week 3 of our series, "Setting the Bible Free" and it's a solo episode where I talk to you about the story of Jesus' encounter with Nicodemus and rethink what it means to be "born again".
Are you deconstructing? Reconstructing? Experiencing a shift in your faith?
This is for you.
SHOW NOTES:
What If Project
Patreon
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